Yeast/Bacteria/Viruses - descriptions of the common symptoms

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MildCaseDad
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Yeast/Bacteria/Viruses - descriptions of the common symptoms

Postby MildCaseDad » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:10 am

Hi,

Can anyone offer some websites, papers (e.g. from an Autism Conference), etc that can detail the specific differences in symptoms between:
Bacteria Issues (e.g. Clostridia)
Yeast Issues (e.g. Candida, but solid poops so possibly no Candida Difficile??)
Viral Issues

[People's experiences are always good to hear, but sometimes Clinics and papers do a better job at quantifying such things.]

It's easy to read so much that you get overwhelmed and perhaps drift away from things that you should be targeting as likely suspects.

Thanks!

mibrielle
Posts: 526
Joined: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:47 pm

Postby mibrielle » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:52 pm

I recently saw this on another list:
(Yahoo Autism-Mercury group)
=================

Yeast Symptoms
Giggly, inappropriate laughing
Foggy, spacey
Change in bowel movements (foul/yeasty smelling stools), gas,
and
bloated belly
Yeasty rash/diaper rash, white coating on tongue, red ring
around
the anus, ringworm, cradle cap
Bedwetting or accidents
Sleep disturbance or Night waking
Hyperactivity, hand flapping, toe walking
Sugar craving

Yeast signs and tests
Stool mycology and sensitivities
Urine OAT (organic acid test)
elevated arabinose
elevated tartaric acid

Treatment
Start a potent Probiotic
Digestive Enzymes
Clean up the diet
Casein/Gluten free
Limit sugar
Consider SCD and/or Low oxalate
Support the gut and reduce inflammation

Vitamins/supplements, herbs, medications
Antifungals
Drugs
• Nystatin, Ampho B
• Fluconazole
• Itraconazole
• Ketoconazole
Herbals
• Berberine
• Grapefruit Seed Extract
• Oil of Oregano, Pau d'Arco
• Garlic, Samento
Homeopathy
Look out for 'die off'
Loose stools, diarrhea
Behavior, irritability
Head aches, head banging
Fatigue
Sleep disturbance
Rashes


Bacteria
Loose stools, diarrhea
Behavior, irritability
Head aches, head banging
Fatigue
Sleep disturbance
Rashes

Strep symptoms
Recurrent Strep infections or bacterial infections
OCD, rituals
Verbal stimming, repetitive, echolalia
Hyperactive, ADD/ADHD
Irritability, mood changes, tantrums
Motor tics or involuntary movements

Strep signs and tests
Stool culture
OAT, high hippuric acid indicates bacterial overgrowth
Testing to rule out PANDAS
Antistreptolysin titer (ASO titer), this rises 3-6 weeks after
a
strep infection
AntiDNase B Ab titer, this rises 6-8 weeks after a strep
infection

PANDAS
Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with
Streptococcal Infections

Autoimmune theory
When the child is exposed to strep, the immune system builds
antibodies against strep. These antibodies can cross react
with areas
in the brain, such as the basal ganglia, rather than the
strep.

New clues: July 2006 NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health)
Research suggests that an antibody against strep bacteria
sometimes
mistakenly acts on brain enzymes, disrupting communication
between
neurons and causing OCD and related tics disorders in children.

Other effects of Strep
TNF (Pro inflammatory)
Strep antibodies induces activity of NMDA

Treatment options for Strep
Probiotics
Alkalization
Xylitol
Antibacterial Herbs
• Golden seal
• Oregon grape root
• Neem
Homeopathy
Antibacterial medications
Immune modulators
• Oral immunoglobins
• Transfer factors
• Colostrum
• Glycan

Treatment for PANDAS
Treatment for OCD and Tics disorders
IVIG (IV immunogluobins)
Plasma exchange or plasmapheresis
Studies are inconclusive on whether these more aggressive
treatment
are beneficial

Clostridia
This is a pathogenic anaerobic bacteria.
Clostridia can be found associated with an elevated
HPHPA/DHPPA on
the urine OAT
Clostridia produce toxins and enzymes that create severe gut
inflammation and produce watery diarrhea

Clostridia issues
Symptoms
• Aggressive
• Temper
• Agitation
• Irritable
• Very foul stools
• Mucus in stools
• Severe diarrhea following antibiotic use

• Probiotics, High Potency single strain
• Sacchyromyces Boulardii
• Antibiotics
Vancomycin
Metronidazole (Flagyl)
• Immune modulators
• Homeopathics
• HBOT

Viral symptoms
Visual and Cognitive processing difficulties
Poor eye contact
Immune dysregulation: Never sick or frequently sick
Poor muscle tone and fatigue
Seizures
Stereotypical Behavior
Rashes, cold sores, warts
Fatigue
History of regression after MMR vaccine or other live virus

Viral signs
Elevated viral titers
Elevated lymphocytes
Low WBC
Low natural killer cells
Upregulation of TNF Alpha

Testing for viruses
Quantitative AB titers: CMV, EBV, HHV6 Measles, Mumps, Rubella,
Polio, Varicella Zoster, HepB-surface antibody, Tetanus
Titers are a guide
Autism is a regulatory problem both internal and external
Our practice and what we see

Treatment options for viruses
Infra Red Sauna
Herbs
Natural Remedies
Homeopathic Remedies
Antiviral medications
Essential Oils
HBOT

Viral issues
Treatment Options
• Antiviral Agents
Olive Leaf Extract, Elderberry
Caprylic Acid
High Dose Vitamin A
• Antiviral Drugs
Acyclovir
Valacyclovir
 Famvir
Imunovir
• Immune Support
Low Dose Naltrexone
Red. Glutathione
Zinc
Immune Modulators

Side effects of treatment
Yeast flare up
Viral "die off"
Low grade fever
Rash
Poor sleep
Hypermobility

Parasites
Discomfort and bloating of stomach
Itchy buttocks, night waking, fecal smearing
Diarrhea and constipation
Teeth grinding
Mal absorption of nutrients, pica, insatiable appetite
Allergies
Behavior changes and/or aggression, worse at full moon
• Picking
• Biting
• Restlessness

Types of parasites
Protozoa: Amoebas, Giardia
Nematodes: Round worms, Pinworms, Hookworms
Cestodes: Tapeworms
Trematodes: Flukes

Testing for parasites
Comprehensive Stool and Parasitology
Very Difficult to find on stool test
Scotch tape test sometimes done in the early morning
Review behaviors around various times of the month
Moon cycles

Treatments for parasites
Probiotics
Herbs
Wormwood
Black walnut
Pumpkin seeds
Clove
Coconut oil
Homeopathy
Antiparasitic medications
Metronidazole
Paromomycin

They (yeast, bacteria, viral or parasites)don't go down without a
fight!!

Potential reactions when eliminating these pathogens
Symptoms
• Irritability, aggression, behavioral issues
• Increased stimming, hyperactivity, sleeplessness
• Skin rash, diaper rash, fever

Possible Causes

• Side effect of supplement or allergy to drug
• Yeast or Bacterial Flare-up (Balancing act)
• Detox Reaction = Too rapid of an effect leading to vitamin or
mineral deficiency, oxidative stress, liver or kidney stress
• Die off = Rapid death of gut bugs, leading to excess release
of
toxins and subsequent liver or kidney stress

Treatment approach

• Rate severity, if severe stop supplement, notify physician
• Treat with Activated charcoal/Bentonite clay and/or Alka
Seltzer
Gold, homeopathic remedy, if helpful probably die off
• Rule out dysbiosis, treat accordingly
• Check ammonia level
• Add Liver Support
Milk thistle, artichoke extract, dandelion root
Give at bedtime
mibrielle

2boys2
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Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:25 pm

Postby 2boys2 » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:27 pm

mibrielle wrote:I recently saw this on another list:
(Yahoo Autism-Mercury group)
=================

Yeast Symptoms
Giggly, inappropriate laughing
Foggy, spacey
Change in bowel movements (foul/yeasty smelling stools), gas,
and
bloated belly
Yeasty rash/diaper rash, white coating on tongue, red ring
around
the anus, ringworm, cradle cap
Bedwetting or accidents
Sleep disturbance or Night waking
Hyperactivity, hand flapping, toe walking
Sugar craving

Yeast signs and tests
Stool mycology and sensitivities
Urine OAT (organic acid test)
elevated arabinose
elevated tartaric acid

Treatment
Start a potent Probiotic
Digestive Enzymes
Clean up the diet
Casein/Gluten free
Limit sugar
Consider SCD and/or Low oxalate
Support the gut and reduce inflammation

Vitamins/supplements, herbs, medications
Antifungals
Drugs
• Nystatin, Ampho B
• Fluconazole
• Itraconazole
• Ketoconazole
Herbals
• Berberine
• Grapefruit Seed Extract
• Oil of Oregano, Pau d'Arco
• Garlic, Samento
Homeopathy
Look out for 'die off'
Loose stools, diarrhea
Behavior, irritability
Head aches, head banging
Fatigue
Sleep disturbance
Rashes


Bacteria
Loose stools, diarrhea
Behavior, irritability
Head aches, head banging
Fatigue
Sleep disturbance
Rashes

Strep symptoms
Recurrent Strep infections or bacterial infections
OCD, rituals
Verbal stimming, repetitive, echolalia
Hyperactive, ADD/ADHD
Irritability, mood changes, tantrums
Motor tics or involuntary movements

Strep signs and tests
Stool culture
OAT, high hippuric acid indicates bacterial overgrowth
Testing to rule out PANDAS
Antistreptolysin titer (ASO titer), this rises 3-6 weeks after
a
strep infection
AntiDNase B Ab titer, this rises 6-8 weeks after a strep
infection

PANDAS
Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with
Streptococcal Infections

Autoimmune theory
When the child is exposed to strep, the immune system builds
antibodies against strep. These antibodies can cross react
with areas
in the brain, such as the basal ganglia, rather than the
strep.

New clues: July 2006 NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health)
Research suggests that an antibody against strep bacteria
sometimes
mistakenly acts on brain enzymes, disrupting communication
between
neurons and causing OCD and related tics disorders in children.

Other effects of Strep
TNF (Pro inflammatory)
Strep antibodies induces activity of NMDA

Treatment options for Strep
Probiotics
Alkalization
Xylitol
Antibacterial Herbs
• Golden seal
• Oregon grape root
• Neem
Homeopathy
Antibacterial medications
Immune modulators
• Oral immunoglobins
• Transfer factors
• Colostrum
• Glycan

Treatment for PANDAS
Treatment for OCD and Tics disorders
IVIG (IV immunogluobins)
Plasma exchange or plasmapheresis
Studies are inconclusive on whether these more aggressive
treatment
are beneficial

Clostridia
This is a pathogenic anaerobic bacteria.
Clostridia can be found associated with an elevated
HPHPA/DHPPA on
the urine OAT
Clostridia produce toxins and enzymes that create severe gut
inflammation and produce watery diarrhea

Clostridia issues
Symptoms
• Aggressive
• Temper
• Agitation
• Irritable
• Very foul stools
• Mucus in stools
• Severe diarrhea following antibiotic use

• Probiotics, High Potency single strain
• Sacchyromyces Boulardii
• Antibiotics
Vancomycin
Metronidazole (Flagyl)
• Immune modulators
• Homeopathics
• HBOT

Viral symptoms
Visual and Cognitive processing difficulties
Poor eye contact
Immune dysregulation: Never sick or frequently sick
Poor muscle tone and fatigue
Seizures
Stereotypical Behavior
Rashes, cold sores, warts
Fatigue
History of regression after MMR vaccine or other live virus

Viral signs
Elevated viral titers
Elevated lymphocytes
Low WBC
Low natural killer cells
Upregulation of TNF Alpha

Testing for viruses
Quantitative AB titers: CMV, EBV, HHV6 Measles, Mumps, Rubella,
Polio, Varicella Zoster, HepB-surface antibody, Tetanus
Titers are a guide
Autism is a regulatory problem both internal and external
Our practice and what we see

Treatment options for viruses
Infra Red Sauna
Herbs
Natural Remedies
Homeopathic Remedies
Antiviral medications
Essential Oils
HBOT

Viral issues
Treatment Options
• Antiviral Agents
Olive Leaf Extract, Elderberry
Caprylic Acid
High Dose Vitamin A
• Antiviral Drugs
Acyclovir
Valacyclovir
 Famvir
Imunovir
• Immune Support
Low Dose Naltrexone
Red. Glutathione
Zinc
Immune Modulators

Side effects of treatment
Yeast flare up
Viral "die off"
Low grade fever
Rash
Poor sleep
Hypermobility

Parasites
Discomfort and bloating of stomach
Itchy buttocks, night waking, fecal smearing
Diarrhea and constipation
Teeth grinding
Mal absorption of nutrients, pica, insatiable appetite
Allergies
Behavior changes and/or aggression, worse at full moon
• Picking
• Biting
• Restlessness

Types of parasites
Protozoa: Amoebas, Giardia
Nematodes: Round worms, Pinworms, Hookworms
Cestodes: Tapeworms
Trematodes: Flukes

Testing for parasites
Comprehensive Stool and Parasitology
Very Difficult to find on stool test
Scotch tape test sometimes done in the early morning
Review behaviors around various times of the month
Moon cycles

Treatments for parasites
Probiotics
Herbs
Wormwood
Black walnut
Pumpkin seeds
Clove
Coconut oil
Homeopathy
Antiparasitic medications
Metronidazole
Paromomycin

They (yeast, bacteria, viral or parasites)don't go down without a
fight!!

Potential reactions when eliminating these pathogens
Symptoms
• Irritability, aggression, behavioral issues
• Increased stimming, hyperactivity, sleeplessness
• Skin rash, diaper rash, fever

Possible Causes

• Side effect of supplement or allergy to drug
• Yeast or Bacterial Flare-up (Balancing act)
• Detox Reaction = Too rapid of an effect leading to vitamin or
mineral deficiency, oxidative stress, liver or kidney stress
• Die off = Rapid death of gut bugs, leading to excess release
of
toxins and subsequent liver or kidney stress

Treatment approach

• Rate severity, if severe stop supplement, notify physician
• Treat with Activated charcoal/Bentonite clay and/or Alka
Seltzer
Gold, homeopathic remedy, if helpful probably die off
• Rule out dysbiosis, treat accordingly
• Check ammonia level
• Add Liver Support
Milk thistle, artichoke extract, dandelion root
Give at bedtime


thanks this is a comprehensive list that i bet lots of us even oldtimers didnt know all of teh symptoms of especially with our non verbal or limited functional language type kids who can not say i have a tummy ache here or a back pain there.
Lisalynn
keeping hope and faith through it all.

MildCaseDad
Posts: 232
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:42 am

Thank you so much, mibrielle

Postby MildCaseDad » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:50 am

That was an incredibly helpful summary.


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